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My mom was a rather damaged person. She was abused by her father, who killed himself shortly before I was born. She had to have a total hysterectomy when she was 18, and lived for nearly 5 years with no hormone replacements until she adopted me.
She was absolutely convinced, for most of her life, that having a child of her own - getting married, becoming pregnant, giving birth, the works - would be her redemption from her shitty childhood.
So having to put up with me as a next-best-thing replacement child was pretty harrowing for her, but she convinced herself that she would love me just as much as the real thing.
And she did, as long as I played the Perfect Child script, which I did amazingly well until just around puberty. I learned how to be an emotional relationship counselor between my mom and dad since I was 4 years old; I learned to tell when my mom was going to have one of her moods, get dad calm and happy so he'd be harder for her to rile up into hitting me, and then spend hours into the dark of the night patching up whatever accusations of emotional abuse were flying between them.
as she got older, she receded further and further into her house, not venturing out for fear of panic attacks and uncontrollable rages. She sat on her couch and smoked, and ate, and listened to Billy Graham and Pat Robertson and Jim and Patty Bakker, and told me all about how my whoring drug-dealing friends and I were going to Hell for not loving her enough.
And then at 23 I told her to her face that I was done, that I was leaving and never coming back, and walked out the door - and she dropped dead of a heart attack (or possibly a pill overdose; the coroner didn't bother with an autopsy) the next day.
Since then, I've tried everything I can to not go down the same path, but as I've got older, it's felt more and more like people are betraying me, like they find me too exhausting to deal with intimately but are too afraid to say it to my face, like every relationship and every job I care about is doomed to failure because I have all these bullshit intense emotional needs for validation and loyalty and trust that I can't solve, because everything is empty inside.
And now I'm just a few years younger than she was when she died, and I see all the same behaviors in me - raging at people for abandoning me, sobbing uncontrollably, ranting at anyone who will listen - that I saw in her.
I never married, and I never had kids, because I didn't want to pass this on.
But I don't want to live this way, either. I warn everyone off and push everyone away as much as I can; I get everyone to leave so they don't have to deal with me, but I still have to deal with me.
And soon enough I'll get so overwhelmed that I jump ship and find some new group, and convince myself that I've changed, and try to convince them to be my friends - while trying to warn them that eventually everything will fall apart - and I don't know how to stop the cycle.
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[–]overcherie 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
I think it would be best to see a therapist and perhaps get on some depression medication. Also the book The Key: And The Name of the Key is Willingness by Cheri Huber. This book changed my life. You can be happy if you let yourself be happy. Be well :)
Edit: meds until you can inflate your self worth. You control you emotions and your world. You don't have to validate your existence, life is random and meaningless. Spend this time creating beauty and giving joy to others. Why not make someone smile since we're stuck on earth? It's fulfilling and brings serenity to your universe. Know that your life is in your hands and you can do anything you want. We each get our own personal world, and if you want to be an awesome person, you can make that happen. You are the master and you are worth a lot.
[–]ialdabaoth[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Already on depression medication, and most therapists find me pretty difficult to work with.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I would recommend you look into DBT therapy.
[–]robinimproudofyoueh 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
validation, loyalty and trust are basic human needs. Please remember that. I don't know any of the answers yet for how to meet those needs in the aftermath of our childhood trauma, but please remember you are not wrong for having those needs and feeling desperate to meet them.
you could try a crisis call line if you ever need a listening ear.I volunteered at one once and lots of good, caring people who wanted to give comfort worked there.
[–]ialdabaoth[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I notice that most of the people I interact with become upset if I ask for validation, loyalty, or trust. They either feel that I act "entitled" to them, or if I explicitly start a relationship by asking how to earn them, they feel that I'm being manipulative by trying to earn them consciously instead of subconsciously. So even if they are basic human needs, many people don't get to have them filled, because it makes others too uncomfortable to think that they need them.
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